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Post by Crippler on Nov 18, 2005 10:34:36 GMT 7
I told my students I was going to learn Chinese and that after Spring break "I would shuo de bu hao no more." One of my better students said "I hope you shuole shihua." The entire class broke into laughter. And, of course the director of the movie I was in said if I could speak Chinese even poorly he could use me a lot. Good motivation!!!
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Post by Ruth on Nov 18, 2005 12:21:21 GMT 7
Email the guy anyway, George. In his first email to me he said he expected to fill 12 slots by the end of November and was holding 6 for December (not sure why...) If you put on your puppy dog eyes it just might work.
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Post by Non-Dave on Nov 18, 2005 13:26:19 GMT 7
Yeah go for it George, we'll use the weight of numbers to force him to bump someone we don't know!
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Post by George61 on Nov 18, 2005 13:43:07 GMT 7
I just did. We await results with bated breaths.
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Post by Stil on Nov 18, 2005 20:18:59 GMT 7
I believe he will re-organize to have more tier 1 groups. Don't be worried just contact him. He's holding spots for people he knows and expects to come (like me ) I have a couple things I have to sort out before I confirm to him. I expect I will do so next week.
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Post by Crippler on Nov 21, 2005 10:20:05 GMT 7
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Post by Non-Dave on Nov 21, 2005 11:20:41 GMT 7
I want to be in that class too!!!
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Post by George61 on Nov 21, 2005 16:14:07 GMT 7
I haven't had a reply to my email yet!
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Post by teleplayer on Nov 23, 2005 6:28:25 GMT 7
Hey gang, I know I spouted off about the Integrated Chinese site a page or so back and I know there was problems opening some. Have had an exchange with Ruth about making an audio power point paring sound with characters and/or pinyin. A faculty member at UC Davis has a powerpoint demo she's done. But more than that, she has a great resource page that links to a variety of Pinyin, Hanzi (most animated it seems), video clips. Seems many of you have Pimsleur's Mandarin I. I was hoping to use that as the foundation for my ppt...hey, maybe sell it to Simon and Shyster...I mean Schuster. 'til then, here's the site you might find helpful. trc.ucdavis.edu/msjacob/ChinaLinks.htmZaijian By the way, will this site show characters? ÔÙ¼û Seems that it does not once you upload. Okay, computer whizzers , Can we have a place that will do English and Hanzi in the same space..? you know, like the Chinese font download. The UC Davis link above has link to microsoft's add on. Would be helpful in this thread for sharing ideas...helping each other with translations. Guess could paste as a picture but jeeeeeeeezzzzzz and mckay!
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Post by George61 on Nov 23, 2005 7:22:39 GMT 7
Ok, I'm booked in. I'll be in the same group as LeiShan and Ruth.....the Dummmies! The fun begins!
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Post by Ruth on Nov 23, 2005 7:51:42 GMT 7
Awwwright The Saloonies take over bootcamp. Can we get the Animal House people to make a movie out of this? Oh, sorry. I forgot we were going there to learn something. Teleplayer - my computer makes gibberish out of Chinese characters. I'm not sure if it's the computer's programming or the server it's sent on. Someone brilliant, like Nate or Nolefan, might know.
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Post by Non-Dave on Nov 23, 2005 7:56:33 GMT 7
That's great George!
Ruth, I'm bringing my video camera so we should make a doco? Wanna be a (bigger) star?
Thanks for the link page TP - looks like some good stuff in there. I've already started exploring.
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Post by con's fly is open on Nov 23, 2005 19:18:05 GMT 7
The doc's a great idea! Seriously.
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Post by teleplayer on Nov 24, 2005 0:10:05 GMT 7
Well, while you guys plan your "Mando-Rockumentary" I thought we should help those who can't get to the freebee sources. On browser, under "view" in the top bar, if you can't read characters my UC-Davis source says "switch encoding to "Big 5" I suggest also switch to "auto." EIther way, then refresh. Where as before I saw the progressive reading as gibberish, Big 5 didn't do anything but "auto" allowed browser to do what it needed. Progressive readings: www.usc.edu/dept/ealc/chinese/newweb/reading_page.htm I suspect Ruth and others may also need to download and install the Chinese Input Editor. It's a free, easy add to your MS Windows. It allows you to type the pinyin and generate characters. It's not as complete as NJStar but it's not $400USD either. Download page: office.microsoft.com/en-/officeupdate/default.aspxFInd your operating system. Here at work I'm Office 2000. At home I'm office 97/98. There's a link for XP and Office 2002 and one for Mac Office. Hope this helps.
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Post by Lotus Eater on Dec 11, 2005 2:28:14 GMT 7
Today in 6 hours I sit for the HSK exam. However this is the least prepared for an exam I have EVER been. And this lack of preparation has taught me a lot about my studying of Chinese. - I tend to panic when I miss words on my tape - and therefore don't listen to the rest of the tape. I also do this with telephone calls from people who only speak Chinese as well. As soon as I realise that they cannot switch to English when I am lost, I immediately hand over the phone to someone else to translate for me. Solution - a) listen to the tapes more often b) have my Chinese teacher speak faster.
- I have realised that I have not transferred the characters I have learned in the text (and can read relatively securely in the text) to the outside world. Part of the reason for this is that the font for characters in the outside world is different - block or fancy or whatever. Solution - choose various fonts from the computer and have the characters printed up in these as well as the text book ones.
- I tend to become confused with characters that look alike - xing ÐË and guang ¹â, ta Ëû£¬ye Ò² de µØ¡£ Solution - understand the stroke shapes and order better.
- I am bloody lazy as well! Solution - beat myself more often!
Panicking is NOT good!
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Post by Newbs on Dec 11, 2005 3:25:57 GMT 7
Man zou, Lotus.
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Post by George61 on Dec 11, 2005 5:33:14 GMT 7
Speaking of accents, we were at a party last night....some Hogan's birthday...and Babe let rip with "very noice"....immediately one woman rushed over..."Say that again". She was from NSW! Very funny (well, maybe you had to have been there,)
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Post by Newbs on Dec 11, 2005 7:08:47 GMT 7
Babe speaking Hoganese. "Noice, different, unusual."
I never went out of my way to try to teach Australian expressions to the Chinese, as I reckon that it can just get plain confusing. But if ever I did try to teach "G'day mate" some of the Chinese could really get that /aI/ sound, so "G'day mate" came out sounding really authentic.
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Post by Mr Nobody on Dec 11, 2005 9:55:59 GMT 7
I do. I teach my students what different countries say and do. Many say "no worries" and laugh, even to each other. They know it is a local thing, but it amuses them. Same as G'day, but they don't say it. They like "no worries" for some reason.
I also taught a couple of them about "the world's smallest violin" and "fairy claps" and they love that too.
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Post by Lotus Eater on Dec 11, 2005 22:12:09 GMT 7
The exam went as expected - I had not prepared enough and was also incredibly slow in reading the questions (all in Chinese). So the only section I actually finished in a vaguely kosher manner was the listening section. The others we were told to move on to the next section after the allotted time - and so for each of these sections I didn't finish, but quickly zapped through and made some pretty patterns on the computer marked answer sheet. One of my students advised me to tick all 'C's for the multiple choice - my Chinese teacher told me to tick 'B' for the 3 choice questions, 'C' for the 4 choice questions!! Will sit again in 6 months - having revised my learning process in line with the learnings I have generated about my own way of studying languages!!
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Post by George61 on Dec 12, 2005 3:48:49 GMT 7
Tut,tut, Lotus. What do we tell our students??
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Post by Lotus Eater on Dec 12, 2005 9:06:03 GMT 7
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Post by Ruth on Dec 14, 2005 11:47:26 GMT 7
Lotus thanks for sharing your experience with us. I admire your courage in attempting the exam and your honesty with us in how you study. I'm a lazy student. I do everything against the advice I give my students. I'm hoping for a miracle at bootcamp, but know that only my hard work and dedication will help me learn the language. A good teacher might be the key, though.
I loved the time I spent with Babe. She's a really fun person to be with and I really like the Aussie accent. 'Bloody hell' when she's peeved is priceless.
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Post by ilunga on Dec 15, 2005 13:13:57 GMT 7
Lotus, which HSK exam did you sit?
Sounds like you had a decent crack at it anyway. I'm impressed with you guys that are picking up the language whilst teaching. I'm having a hard time, and don't have any other distractions (other than pro-evolutuon soccer 5 and pi jiu).
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Post by Lotus Eater on Dec 15, 2005 13:31:35 GMT 7
My understanding is that the HSK is divided into 2 groups. Levels 1-5 and then 6-8. I sat for the level 1-5 group - held at XISU last weekend. As far as I can tell the scoring will then assess which level you have reached. So the books I have cover all levels. I have one book of previous exam papers (with 6 hours of tapes to go with it) and another set of 3 books that cover all of the vocab used in the first group. The next HSK exam is apparently sometime June/July. I have set myself the goal of reaching level 4. I have set my FT colleague the goal of reaching 7 - and she has decided I am like her parents and telling her to take the easy path, so she automatically goes against them and takes the hard path! She is aiming for 8. We are good at setting goals for each other!!
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