Ruth
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Post by Ruth on May 7, 2005 17:49:56 GMT 7
Does anybody want some? It's currently on special at Pizza Hut in Beijing - and I assume the rest of the country where Pizza Hut restaurants exist.
The pizza in the pictures looked good and I DO like mushrooms on my pizza, but somebody goofed with the name translation if they are trying to appeal to the western English-speaking market, IMHO.
We opted for a Super Supreme, hold the fungus.
Makes me think the cook has athlete's foot or something worse.
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Post by Wolf on May 9, 2005 10:02:37 GMT 7
Maybe it's penicillin on the pizzas. At least it would kill some of the bacteria, right?
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 9, 2005 18:18:51 GMT 7
Not necessary. No self-respecting bacterium would be caught dead eating at Pizza Hut.  |
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Post by Ruth on May 12, 2005 11:58:28 GMT 7
Hey, HEY, HEY - Just cause you live in a big city and get to eat western stuff whenever you like. We bumpkins from the country towns in China have to take our small pleasures where we can find them.
Pizza Hut in China makes darn good pizza when you haven't had any for six months. Not that I'm desperate or anything...
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 12, 2005 18:21:04 GMT 7
Actually, Ruth, I agree with you...in China. Pizza Hut seems a lot better here but I don't know if it's just the deprivation talking. Papa John's is also reportedly much better here than in the States.
I think my big issue with Pizza Hut here is the price. I've usually been able to find places with pizza as good or better than Pizza Hut, but at a much more reasonable price.
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Post by Mr Nobody on May 14, 2005 14:29:51 GMT 7
Sorry, guys, must disagree. Having eaten pizza hut twice in two cities in China, and about four or five times in HK. They both suck, China is suckier, if that is a word.
I then went back to Oz to check. Either that, or Oz gets better pizza hut than USAnia or Canuckistan. Which I find hard to believe
It must be the long-term deprivation. Even six weeks wasn't enough. It was unpizza.
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 14, 2005 15:44:46 GMT 7
Either that, or Oz gets better pizza hut than USAnia or Canuckistan. Which I find hard to believe. You should. Amurka has the best pizza...but you won't find it in a Pizza Hut any more than you'll ever get a decent hamburger in McDonalds. PH Pizza tastes better in China than back home, but still not the best pizza in the world. Or even in China. The pizza in 98% of China's local places is swill, but I've managed to find one little place in every town that actually knew what they were doing. Una's Pizza in Shanghai is run by a guy who made pizza in Oz for years. |
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Post by Jollyjunklass on May 14, 2005 22:13:47 GMT 7
Hmm,
Pizza Hut, in Canada, or Ontario anyway, has excellent pizza. Especially thin crust pizza.
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Post by Mr Nobody on May 15, 2005 1:32:47 GMT 7
Thin crust!? Thin crust?!! Thou shalt answer to Odin!!!
Original crust only or my cats and I declare Jihad!!!
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Sorry, Mr Nobody has been detain for observation. All his messages will be answered by Mr Bond.
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Post by George61 on May 15, 2005 3:08:40 GMT 7
Una's Pizza in Shanghai is run by a guy who made pizza in Oz for years.
Exactly!! That's why Australia has the best Pizza in the world. .....and NOT at PIZZA HUT!
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Post by Ruth on May 17, 2005 17:41:15 GMT 7
Maybe it's deprivation talking, but I think the Pizza Hut pizza in China is better than in the States. Also, the salad bar is yummy. 29 kuai for a bowl of lettuce, etc. is really steep, though. You are right to object to the prices, Raoul.
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 17, 2005 18:38:59 GMT 7
It's an outrage, Ruth. I have to be pretty hard-pressed to eat there. Same thing goes for those 25+ RMB for one tiny cup of coffee places. <Una's Pizza in Shanghai is run by a guy who made pizza in Oz for years.> Exactly!! That's why Australia has the best Pizza in the world. .....and NOT at PIZZA HUT! Hey, follow George's logic on this one...and wind up muttering to yourself in the trash heap behind the bus station.  |
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Post by George61 on May 17, 2005 19:29:43 GMT 7
I don't quite see the logic in that!!
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 17, 2005 23:41:43 GMT 7
Australia has the world's best pizza because Una's Pizza in Shanghai is run by a guy who made pizza in Oz for years? Maybe Australian pizza was so bad before that even a Chinese guy could improve it?  |
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Post by George61 on May 18, 2005 3:41:09 GMT 7
Pedantic little bastard! So I made a slip. So the logic is not there. So I was drinking. So shoot me!  |
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Post by Lotus Eater on May 18, 2005 7:17:51 GMT 7
I thought that the ORIGINAL original pizza (i.e. Italian) had a thin crust, very few ingredients as toppings. Pizza as we know it is not the same.
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Post by Mr Nobody on May 18, 2005 7:52:23 GMT 7
Yeah, Lotus, true.
Pizza was re-invented early 20th C by an italian in the USA. This is modern pizza. (google will bring this up, I tried it last year for a previous discussion)
Before this, there was italian pizza invented in Napoli, as you describe. (also google brought up) Napoli pizza is the pits. A thin smear of tomato sauce, single paper thin slice of ham covering half the pizza, and light sprinkle of cheese on the other half. I said, "What?". (climbed vesuvius the next day, and later saw Pompei and went to Herculaneum. What a place! A must see!)
Before this was the bread ration baked with cheese and ham for troops defending castles. They needed a hand food while they stayed alert, so their ration of bread, meat, cheese and sometiems olives where baked into the bread. This is also still made, but pizza evolved from it. (google didn't find this, this discovered due to extensive research into medieval foods way back when I was getting into the middle ages.)
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 18, 2005 22:22:34 GMT 7
Beats the crap out of the local theory. I've heard many Chinese claim that the da bing was the origin of pizza. I suppose other civilizations simply were not subtle enough to ever think of making flatbreads round. And adding tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings were simply minor details.  |
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Post by con's fly is open on May 24, 2005 12:07:47 GMT 7
I always preferred Chicago Deep Dish, m'self. Chinese pizza is pretty good in it's own way, but they don't use tomato sauce. This renders it a completely different food. Granted, the N.Am. way is a tad calorie-heavy, but I'd think that cheese and tomato sauce would win folks over. Yet another business venture I'm too lazy busy to pursue. Alexis, might you consider adding a pizzaria (sp?) counter to your deli?  |
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Post by Lotus Eater on May 24, 2005 12:12:08 GMT 7
Plenty of pizza places in Xi'an. Made some for the party the other night, and one of the Chinese guests asked if egg would be an OK substitute for cheese? Given that cheese is expensive here and they are much the same colour, I can see why she asked - but .....  |
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Post by Raoul Duke on May 24, 2005 21:49:54 GMT 7
I've long been told that the Chinese simply don't like cheese. However, I haven't observed much of this at all. I can see where things like Roquefort or Limburger might be a leap...they are for many westerners too. But most Chinese I've known or observed seem to like your basic sandwich slices or Mozzarella, etc. just fine although the don't go out of their way to eat them. Anyone else heard this or observed a lot of cheese phobia here? On the other hand I've known many Chinese who don't like tomato sauce...leastways less'n the can has had a few kilos of sugar dumped into it.  |
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Post by George61 on May 25, 2005 3:26:10 GMT 7
Chinese do like cheese....and vegemite. It's simply a matter of education. On the other hand. no way would I eat eggplant or dofu....education or not!!
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Post by Mr Nobody on May 25, 2005 7:42:42 GMT 7
I have met plenty of Chinese in Oz who like cheese (none admitting to liking vegemite, though) and a couple even like stinky cheeses, although only two spring to mind, both born here. In HK I noticed a few also did, but most did not. Most westerners eat tofu in roughly similar proportion going the other way - proximity based. To me, egg plant tastes good when cooked about 3 different ways, the rest like aubergines. I react similarly to tofu - they both taste like cooked paper. Love Ma Po To Fu, though, and the eggplant or tofu stuffed with prawns and fried with the oyster sauce all over it. MMMMMMMM. In China, I have only one experience to relate: This lady who i know reasonably well mentioned she had never tried pizza, so we took her to Foshan pizza hut and their innadequate pizza. there was a thin layer of cheese. She didn't like the pizza, and wondered what the fuss was about and besides, what was the yellow nasty stuff on top? Cheese, says I. Oh, says she, I have heard of it. How is it made? So i tell her, leaving out the "bovine mucous secretions curdled with bacteria and then rotted with fungus" that is my normal description for westerners. I tried to make it sound nice. Oh, says she. No wonder it tastes so bad.  ?? This is the same lady who virtually forced me to try a rotton smelling fermented tofu sauce for what appeared to be dogmeat. |
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Post by con's fly is open on May 25, 2005 11:58:44 GMT 7
Funny you should mention that, Nobby: one fine evening my headmaster pulled out a jar full of what translates literally, and perfectly, as "Stinky Tofu". No one else seemed to notice (in that uniquely talented Chinese way they have), but I and Outspoken Penny jumped up, faces contorted, uttering "AAAAAOOOOOHHH!!!"   Funny that when I came back from Shaghai, they all reacted to the smell of my precious cheeses the way I did to Stinky Tofu. Granted, there was no fridge here, and they were a wee bit ripe, but wow. Maybe if I started them off with peanut butter-and-cheddar-cheese sandwiches, I could intitiate them... but at Chinese cheese prices, I think they'd get a bigger kick out of just setting fire to piles of money. |
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Post by Lotus Eater on May 25, 2005 14:04:32 GMT 7
I make pizza for my Chinese friends and they put in an order when they know I am visiting. Took the makings to Hebi for the wedding and made it for a bunch of people. Cheese went down no problems - especially when it was melted and gooey. I also made the tomato sauce, so it tasted way better than the stuff in bottles.
But I find if I make spaghetti bolognaise I have to add chili to it or it is too bland for them to eat. Maybe I should do chili con carne instead?
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