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Post by con's fly is open on May 31, 2005 19:57:40 GMT 7
We have it here, out in the Liaoning sticks. To cover your bases, though, mention in your cover letter that you can also send it in MSWord, or even cut-and-paste it into an email. If they still can't read it: They're idiots.
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Post by Jollyjunklass on May 31, 2005 22:35:59 GMT 7
Thanks Con I meant all the forms like passport, pics, transcripts, ( all in one pkg) etc. But it's good to know it's there.
And thanks for the rest of the advice all.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 1, 2005 18:10:23 GMT 7
Millana, Acrobat is available here, but I recommend that you send documents in MS Word format, and your images in either jpg or gif format. ANY computer can handle these...maybe even a Mac. It's dangerous to assume that anyone at a school here will go to the extra trouble of downloading and installing Acrobat Reader, or sending an e-mail, on your behalf.
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Post by Jollyjunklass on Jun 1, 2005 22:56:02 GMT 7
K, thanks Raoul,
I'll switch them over.
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Post by Beausie on Jun 2, 2005 14:05:14 GMT 7
Hi guys, don't want to hijack this, but being a new member I just went through and read it all. I'm just coming to the end of my contract at a Teacher Training College in Hubei, and I've decided to come back to China next year. In my first few months here, had anyone told me that I would want to come back to China, I'd have said they were mad. But somehow, over the months, this country has got to me - I don't know what it is, intriguing, weird??? - and now I want to spend more time here. My point is, with all the crap that can happen, there's some really good stuff too. China just seems to get a hold on some of us. So if you are coming here, remember to give it some time, it will probably get better once you adjust.
BTW, any advice on good gigs for teaching Business English would be appreciated.
Cheers
Ellen
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 2, 2005 19:02:51 GMT 7
China does indeed get under one's skin. Despite the mountains of crap I have to contend with here, it keeps flashing in that I LOVE living in China. I may have to go home someday...but I don't want to. BTW, any advice on good gigs for teaching Business English would be appreciated. If you happen to land in the Suzhou or Shanghai areas, send me a resume. Although I need tech geeks and hotel people a lot worse.
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jun 2, 2005 19:13:06 GMT 7
what is a tech geek?
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Post by Wolf on Jun 4, 2005 9:50:43 GMT 7
Kind of like a Star Trek geek, but with a job. ;D
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 4, 2005 12:44:13 GMT 7
Yup. People into electronics and semiconductors and computers and factory processes and such. I can teach a lot of these things but am sticking with hotels for my own classes as much as possible. And this has nothing to do with the fact that hotels seem to be where all the prettiest girls and the western-trained chefs work.
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Post by George61 on Jun 4, 2005 15:01:21 GMT 7
Hmmmm....I can do hotelspeak!...might have to move in a few months, too.
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jun 4, 2005 15:45:14 GMT 7
I have a diploma in programming and systems analysis and design (didn't finish the last unit). Plus, used to make my own circuits etc.
But I don't think the girlie would go for it anyway.
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Post by woza17 on Jun 17, 2005 11:52:53 GMT 7
Hey I just realized this forum has a spell check. I wish I had a friend that was a techno geek. My emails are infected with a virus lovegate. George are you thinking of moving?
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Post by burlives on Jun 17, 2005 12:11:49 GMT 7
Woza, interesting post in an interesting location. Nonethless: There are several lovegates. Symantec has different methods for de-jiggering ones computer of various variants. Consider this and also this. Does AVG identify which variant you have?
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Post by woza17 on Jun 29, 2005 17:01:34 GMT 7
Hi Burl Are you trying to tell me in a polite way I have gone off topic. Well you are right. A physics geek came over and upgraded my antivirus . Who is AGV and should I know him
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Post by con's fly is open on Jun 30, 2005 20:50:30 GMT 7
I have a diploma in programming and systems analysis and design (didn't finish the last unit). Plus, used to make my own circuits etc. But I don't think the girlie would go for it anyway. Sorry for the tardiness- it somehow didn't register until this moment. DUDE! (bitchslap sound) You combine computer programming, native English, and a caucasian face!? From the moment you read this compose a document, consisting of this info, along with exactly where you want to live, how much salary you can in all good taste accept, and which body part you wish your headmaster to give a tongue bath on every Tuesday; cut-and-paste and post it everywhere. Counterfeiting, for you, would be a pay cut.
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jul 1, 2005 8:33:56 GMT 7
I am outa date. That was 10 years ago, although I think I could pick it up again. And, you notice, I didn't finish the last unit. So no nice piece of paper.
But that sounds good. So, tell me how I should do this?
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Post by Jollyjunklass on Jul 1, 2005 8:41:35 GMT 7
Hey Bond,
Maybe if you get your transcript it will pass, many don't seem to pay attention to the actual certificate. Remember I don't get my mine until October, and my transcript seems to be making it through everywhere (minus actual degree paper). The ones that seem to be picky are the very high ranking Unis. Give it a shot, you would be surprised.
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jul 1, 2005 8:54:18 GMT 7
Not sure I can get a transcript from here. Was done at a TAFE not the Uni. I have no contacts there.
One thing, though, the girlie just found out she can have up to 2 years leave from her job. Now, we are looking all over, not just here. The job I 'have' here now can wait until I don't think I can get a better offer. THEN I will sign.
Heh.
Spending all day sending off the resume, today, anyplace or offer that looks good. And tomorrow.
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Post by Jollyjunklass on Jul 1, 2005 9:00:39 GMT 7
Awe, I thought it would be so cool to have you there if I went to Nanning, where do you think you might go?
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jul 1, 2005 9:04:18 GMT 7
Somewhere in Guangdong, maybe, although the girlie likes both Kunming and Shanghai area.
Or HK, but I don't think that will happen.
BUt if nothing really bites me, I don't mind it here either. Just looking for the best advantage. Nowhere is definite, though, since we have only been talking about it last night.
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Post by Jollyjunklass on Jul 1, 2005 9:08:08 GMT 7
Woz, AVG is an antivirus protection tool, not the good looking guy next door.
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Post by Jollyjunklass on Jul 1, 2005 9:19:47 GMT 7
It's a little hard to get a job in Kunming. I have been trying. That would be my ultimate. They are hiring here, www.chinatefl.com/yunnan/teach/yn_lbt.htmHe is suppose to be a pretty good guy. He is from England, married a Chinese woman. I didn't get a response from him , but you might. Give it a shot. I think it would be rather easy to get a job in Guangdong. I have a Chinese friend there who is always bugging me to work there, she sends me quite a few offers. You would have no problem getting a job there.
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Post by Canuck on Jul 3, 2005 21:20:06 GMT 7
I have been living in BJ for a little more than a year, teaching ESL freelance. I have worked for some of the so called language mills and some have been okay for me. The down side is that there is not much job stability. The pay is on the low side per hour, although there is opportunity to work more hours. I'm considering tutoring. Can anybody give advice about tutoring esl.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jul 3, 2005 23:18:12 GMT 7
A little...and welcome, Canuck!
I lived briefly in Beijing. An anonymous language mill (Modern English) was NOT OK for me and I quickly moved on.
I had some friends there that were entirely doing freelance tutoring and part-time work. They made pretty good money but they worked incredibly hard for it. Turnover in tutoring gigs is quite high, and they really had to hustle to always keep the next one(s) coming in the pipeline. If they didn't, they quickly found themselves with not enough hours to sustain themselves.
It takes a long time to build a tutoring network. You actually have to be good at this poo...most of the work seems to come from word of mouth.
These people also had only F or L visas and lived the precarious lives of people with no residence permit.
Freelancing is in effect running a small business. Not everyone has the energy, dedication, contacts, or cojones to pull it off. Sometimes there is something to be said for being part of a school.
I've considered trying it...but only when I can finally get a green card without relying on a school or company to get one for me.
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Post by con's fly is open on Jul 3, 2005 23:46:11 GMT 7
What Raoul said. I gather that the idea is to get a steady that covers your barebones cost of living, and build a tutoring business in your free time. Then, when your contract expires, assuming you have enough on the go and in the bank, flesh out completely. The brochure sure looks nice: he with two dozen masters IS the master. I hope to have my own thing one day, myself. And welcome aboard, dude.
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