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Post by icebear on Apr 19, 2006 0:07:41 GMT 7
Kayne is a popular rapper these days. He's known for being somewhat 'progressive' in the subjects he raps about, which garners him a bit more fan fare. His production is generally good but I think his topics are usually hypocritical or trite. The situation in question can be viewed here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WyEpW2BAiY |
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Post by Stil on Apr 19, 2006 0:28:22 GMT 7
Thanks Bear
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Post by loller on Apr 19, 2006 1:06:30 GMT 7
Kayne is a popular rapper these days. He's known for being somewhat 'progressive' in the subjects he raps about, which garners him a bit more fan fare. His production is generally good but I think his topics are usually hypocritical or trite. The situation in question can be viewed here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WyEpW2BAiYYeah, a rapper who mentions Jesus, how original and forward-thinking. |
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Post by cheekygal on Apr 19, 2006 14:07:41 GMT 7
Alright here's what it is:
There are a lot of Africans from Africa in China who deal drugs, overstay their visas and abuse Chinese laws. There is already general-due-to-certain-ignorance racist issue in China towards dark skin, but this whole situation adds up to it. So, a lot of my friends who are Africans from Africa and are hard-working people (both students and working people) have been having troubles with their visa processes and in some cases they would only be left alone if their hold passports of US, UK and other *developped* countries.
It is sad. Really sad. But true.
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Post by Newbs on Apr 19, 2006 14:37:23 GMT 7
I was walking down a very busy street in Nanjing one day. There was a negro walking ahead of me minding his own business. I saw a local walking towards us, and when she saw the negro, she did a 90 degree turn and walked away. It was obvious to me that she was confronted by a negro and did not know how to react (well, did she need to react at all?) so walked away from the situation. I thought "You poor b@st@rd! You must get reactions like that every day you're in China."
I really don't think that I'm reading too much into this. All the time I was in China I realised that, being a white, male teacher from a "Western" country, I was somewhere near to the top of the food pyramid, as far as foreigners go.
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Post by loller on Apr 19, 2006 14:39:31 GMT 7
Damn, I wish I had that kind of effect on people. If my mere presence put people off, I would entertain myself by chasing school children and rapping to them. They would have the best impressions of black people.
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Post by cheekygal on Apr 19, 2006 19:21:39 GMT 7
Newbs, go modify you post!  |
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Post by icebear on Apr 19, 2006 21:28:05 GMT 7
Damn, I wish I had that kind of effect on people. If my mere presence put people off, I would entertain myself by chasing school children and rapping to them. They would have the best impressions of black people. I think you put an extra 'p to' in there on accident. |
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Post by loller on Apr 19, 2006 23:00:31 GMT 7
Hahaha. Yeah, you're right.
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Post by OZgronk on Apr 25, 2006 12:46:50 GMT 7
We came in on 6 Month F visas, with return tickets. At our first school no mention of visas was made, and when they neared expiry we sent our passports to our agent who renewed them.
We went back to OZ for 2 weeks then came back to a new school. They tried to do the right thing and took us to meet the PSB. Wow that was fantastic! Two stunning girls who even impressed Mrs Oz in their uniforms, but they were totally out of their depth trying to figure out the system.
After an hour of going through manuals, they said something in Chinese to our FD who took us back to the school and said that the PSB has no idea how to handle changing them into Z visas, but "it does not matter", they know we are here and that was all that mattered. (and I thought if it meant being arrested by those two, I certainly wouldn't mind).
Anyway every 6 months our F gets renewed and we have been out of the country again and returned.
I get the feeling that in the smaller places, (probably like small country towns everywhere in the world), that the local plod aren't all that keen on paperwork, or are told just to keep things under control themselves.....who knows.
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Post by Eagle's Nest on Apr 25, 2006 21:32:09 GMT 7
Okay, I haven't yet arrived but I will be coming with the Z-Visa as approved. Both my wife and I will have our own Z-Visas as we both will be working at the university in Changzhou.
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Post by Ruth on Apr 26, 2006 15:32:27 GMT 7
That's the way to do it, Eagle. All right and proper like.
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Post by motis on Apr 26, 2006 18:51:10 GMT 7
I made a deal with a school before I arrived, and at their suggestion I obtained an 'L' visa in Moscow, which the school converted to a 'Z' visa after my arrival in country.
My recent trip to Hong Kong was necessitated by the fact that I had an 'X' visa, and the PSB told me that (for Yanks, at least) 'X' visas cannot be renewed in China... you have to step outside and come back in. Now I've got an 'L' visa, and it's due to expire very shortly... does anyone know what the current drill is for an American to renew a tourist visa? Also, can anyone tell me how the visa/residency situation changes after one marries a Chinese citizen?
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Post by ilunga on Jul 8, 2006 15:55:07 GMT 7
This is probably a stupid question but.... How easy is it to get a tourist visa in your home country? When I first came to China I was on a Z visa. Is it the same process to get the tourist visa as the Z visa (ie needing to go to nearest chinese embassy with photos, and have them send it in the post) or a bit easier? I'm going home in 10 days and my student visa expires at the end of the month. I don't want to leave things until the last minute and find it takes time to process a simple tourist visa.
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Post by George61 on Jul 8, 2006 15:59:06 GMT 7
Shouldn't be difficult. In Melbourne I paid a bit extra for same-day service. An "L" Visa should theoretically be easier than an "F".
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Post by Dr. Gonzo on Jul 8, 2006 16:24:41 GMT 7
So how do I vote? And I'm admin.
It were a Z it were. Delivered to Melbourne airport an hour before departure. I have the PRC consulate to thank/blame for that one.
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Post by ilunga on Jul 8, 2006 16:36:17 GMT 7
Thanks George. I was hoping it would be a lot easier, ie not having to endure a five hour round trip to the nearest Chinese Embassy. Last time I got a bit lost and missed the 12pm deadline. I had to spend a full day in Manchester, which would have been ok if I hadn't blown all my money in the casino, meaning I had to sleep in the hire car until the Visa Office opened up.
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Post by con's fly is open on Jul 9, 2006 21:28:13 GMT 7
You can mail in the forms, although it'll take longer. Yeah, I concur: the only potential wrinkle is those stupid Chinese consulates that close at noon (read: 11:53 a.m.).
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Post by solongtinik on Jul 19, 2006 13:01:23 GMT 7
the agency promised a Z visa but the just day before my flight the agent told me it's actually an F visa...cheater! cheater!
so now, im havin a problem on this and my school is claiming that they aren't capable to help me! am i smelling a rotten poo here?!?!?
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jul 19, 2006 13:09:32 GMT 7
You are most definitely smelling a rotten poo here. Only question is whether it was laid by the agency, the school, or by both. You've got to hang tough. Make it clear that you were promised a Z Visa/Residence Permit, and that you will not accept anything less. If a legal visa is not forthcoming, get the hell out of there. I just can't say it enough: DON'T USE RECRUITING AGENCIES!!!  |
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jul 19, 2006 16:07:19 GMT 7
I would say come anyway, but then, start looking for other places.
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Post by con's fly is open on Jul 25, 2006 15:29:22 GMT 7
Yeah, shop around. Aggressively. Schools often employ this bait-and-switch tactic: "Did I say Z visa? Oh, my silly English! Well, this is really just as good."   This is NOT acceptable, kiddo. This bullpoo is designed to save the school some money, ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, it gives them a power advantage over you: "You don't like it? Go home, then."  Schools especially love to pull this on women from the Phillipines, hoping they will meekly take whatever the school dishes out.  DON'T STAND FOR IT. You can find other work, for fair wages and a legitimate visa. Come over on a tourist visa if need be. And put the word out back home. Filipinos get fvcked over more than the rest of us, despite having excellent qualifications. It's unacceptable. |
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Post by Mr Nobody on Jul 26, 2006 9:05:57 GMT 7
Con is right.
Well, well, well.
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Post by con's fly is open on Jul 26, 2006 22:09:55 GMT 7
Con is right. Well, well, well. Just putting that in a box for the rest of you so y'all can cut and paste it when I'm right. It'll save a lot of time.  |
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